Episode 329
Executive Presence Without the Mould: Ageism, Culture, and Code-Switching
Episode 329 - We unpack what interviewers are really reacting to, how to show agility at any age, and how to stay authentic while adapting to different cultures and expectations.
I understand why Brené Brown and Adam Grant can say “thumbs down” on executive presence and get a standing ovation. In their conversation on Dare to Lead, they frame executive presence as “party of one” and contrast it with leadership as a “collective capability.” It’s a compelling point, and a necessary correction for leaders who confuse charisma with competence or confuse performative confidence with real stewardship.
But in my day-to-day work as a career coach for experienced corporate professionals, executives, and senior technical specialists, executive presence is not a fad, a buzzword, or an outdated corporate relic. It is a hiring variable. It’s the most searched term on my podcast’s website. And pretending otherwise leaves job seekers at the mercy of unspoken rules.
That’s why I devoted Episode 329 of The Job Hunting Podcast to executive presence, alongside two experts who don’t treat it as a personality type or a costume: Dr. Alexa Chilcutt, executive coach and faculty lead for the Johns Hopkins Carey Business School’s Executive Education Business Communication Certificate, and Dr. Carl DuPont, Associate Professor of Voice at Johns Hopkins University’s Peabody Institute and Executive Education faculty at Carey.
What I took from our discussion is this: executive presence is real because the question isn’t whether it exists. The question is whether we teach it responsibly, in a way that helps professionals be read accurately, without forcing them into a narrow mould.
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Links mentioned in this episode:
- 00:00 Introduction to Executive Presence
- 01:51 Defining Executive Presence
- 04:43 The Importance of Communication
- 07:36 Challenging Traditional Views on Executive Presence
- 09:54 Navigating Ageism in the Workplace
- 12:52 Cultural Dissonance and Code Switching
- 28:33 Authenticity vs. Performance in Executive Presence
- 32:27 The Evolution of Personal Branding
- 34:22 Navigating Cultural Expectations in Professional Appearance
- 37:42 The Role of Voice in Executive Presence
- 41:23 Embracing Diversity in Professional Narratives
- 46:52 The Art of Communication: Finding Your Voice
- 52:03 Overcoming Barriers to Executive Presence
About the host, Renata Bernarde
Hello, I'm Renata Bernarde, the Host of The Job Hunting Podcast. I'm also an executive coach, job-hunting expert, and career strategist. I teach corporate, non-profit, and public professionals the steps and frameworks to help them find great jobs, change, and advance their careers with confidence and less stress.
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